Grateful Dead Live at L'Olympia on 1972-05-04
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This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"
Greatest Story Ever Told
Beat It On Down The Line
Brown Eyed Women
Playing In The Band
You Win Again
It Hurts Me Too
Next Time You See Me
Ramble On Rose
Dark Star ->
Dark Star ->
Sing Me Back Home
Big Boss Man
Uncle John's Band
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
Not Fade Away ~ One More Saturday Night
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|Greatest Story Ever Told|
|Beat It On Down The Line|
|Brown Eyed Women|
|Playing In The Band|
|You Win Again|
|It Hurts Me Too|
|Big Railroad Blues|
|The Stranger (Two Souls In Communion)|
|Next Time You See Me|
|Ramble On Rose|
|Dark Star ->|
|Dark Star ->|
|Sing Me Back Home|
|Big Boss Man|
|Uncle John's Band|
|Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->|
|Not Fade Away|
|One More Saturday Night|
-- Thanks to Steve Rolfe for lending me his Dat
-- 2nd Set disc changes are seamless
-- Cut at start of Casey Jones
-- Cut at end of Dark Star
-- Cut in Not Fade Away
-- Diginoise in Big Railroad Blues patched with shnid#20562
-- Next Time You see Me is from a different source
- 2008-05-07 14:26:02
- Dat (Sony R500) -> SEK'D Prodif Plus ->
- Paris, France
- This show has been commercially released as " Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition"
- Run time
- Transferred by
- Charlie Miller
Subject: Did Pig know?
Subject: Pig magic
Subject: From a Parisian, with love
Subject: 2nd Oly
Perhaps overshadowed by the 1st Oly and the following show at Bickershaw. Not a tour top five, but it's E72, where there is a ridiculous amount of good material and easily overlooked shows. Pigpen lovers get four in the First Set alone. Songs from this show have been on five different official releases.
First Set. Like the previous night (or like most of E72) things roar out t'gate, with a good Greatest Story and an early (slowww) Deal. The Mr. Charlie is stellar and it's because of Bobby. Elsewhere speaking fake French, here he calls for Beat it on Down the Line-7½ and they do it! The only "low" points of the set are Brown Eyed & He's Gone, but only because they're thin and relatively undeveloped here, and Casey Jones, which is ostensibly a funky, groovy version - but slows to where it's lanquid and flat.The rest is well above average, especially You Win Again. One of five on E72 tour - note Pig's organ as well. Bobby's all over the rhythm figures for Big Railroad.
Second Set. It's a jam song to start, with Good Lovin'. There are some great sections but also some vamping - it's not 4/8 or 4/16. Next Time You See Me may get overlooked, and though there are a couple better ones on the tour, this is aces. Ramble On Rose may be the best one to date and Jack Straw is the first great one with the newer arrangement. The Dark Star is much-discussed, and even occasionally revered. Why - because it's long? It's so long it was released on both sides of the Dark Star LP (chosen over a dozen better, and also lengthy 72s); cute, that. The two longest ones have another song sandwiched - this one does not. But the truth is, it's full of repetition and noodling. This is the Dead your unenlightened friends complain about. Not the best one of the tour, though E72 isn't the peak era of Dark Stars anyway. That said, there are - of course - good sections, particularly after Drums. There ought to be @40min! Conversely, this is one of the tour's best versions of Sugar Magnolia - or would be, as this is a studio overdubbed version (that's all that exist, as vox were recorded over the top of the existing stems). Mexicali was generally nailed on E72 but this is beyond the pale. There's a couple average songs until a whopping Goin' Down the Road. The second solo is insane and fires both Keith and Pigpen. Unfortunately, the Not Fade Away turns into a Bobby vs. Donna shriekfest. Bobby wins. One More Saturday Night is usually listed as the encore but they didn't leave the stage.
1st Set: B-
2nd Set: B+
Overall = 4 Stars
Mr. Charlie - great throughout the tour but it's Bobby that shines here
You Win Again - this and 5/24 are the winners; note Pigpen on organ
Big Railroad Blues - Bobby's playing is great
Next Time You See Me - up there with 4/24 & 5/23
Ramble On Rose - best to date
Jack Straw - 1st great one of final arrangement
Sugar Magnolia - def a winner with Jer's wah, but only studio vox exist; box version more accurate than original
Mexicali Blues - Jer really hits on a cool solo this night; best of tour
Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad - flying by the time the second solo zaps inter-dimensions
SOURCES: This miller.77294 or official box version (latter has a bit more Keith and less Jer in the mix). Dark Star is on its own album. The overdubbed Sugar Magnolia was on the original Europe '72. A version sans solo was the Sugar Magnolia 7" single (b/w Mr. Charlie from 5/23). Next Time You See Me & Deal are on Europe '72 Volume 2.
Subject: Jump On Your Pony And Ride !!!
great pigpen show
jerry and pig very in sync
Chinatown Shuffle reminds me of Charlie Patton.
Subject: Nothing going to bring him back
This would set the bar for shows we would see in the 1980's. It was an impossible bar. Sort of like the line in Crazy Fingers "Never could reach it, just slipped away"
The music on this tour is as close to perfect as music gets to perfect in an imperfect world.
My feeling is the x-factor of these shows is having audiences that were seeing the Grateful Dead afresh without all the clutter that accumulates over time with anything that anyone does regularly. And conversely I believe it was good for the band to get away from the expectations and yes demands of their growing fan base.
The other factor is this moment in time finds the old guard ie-PIGPEN meeting the new guard -Donna and Keith. And there is something to be said for things we do in the prime of our lives!
Also not sure how anyone could hear Pigpen sing 'TWO SOULS' and not be deeply and profoundly moved. That just happens to be where I am at in the recording. But I can find in every tune such soul and flowers in full bloom beauty.
"Oh, One more time. I just want to fly"
Just had to add this is the best GOOD LOVIN with PIGPEN. He even gets some WANG DANG DOODLE all night long in there. seriously this is masterful. His mojo is off the Richter scale.
No board ID available here can compare to the official release. Just sayin'....
Subject: True Ice
All their motorcycles quiet.
Subject: Europe 72 artwork
Subject: Another Europe 72 Triumph
As always, Thanks to Charlie Miller for managing to perfect perfection.
Subject: la Crème de la crème
Pig's 23+ minute Good Lovin' set opener is a fantastic performance. But the high point of this show is of course the moody/exploratory two-part Dark Star split by a drum break, and what is possibly the best Sugar Magnolia of 1972 (on Europe '72).
This fine Dark Star soars from the opening notes. It is brilliant and jazzy, sustaining momentum through the entire pre-verse segment. Jerry's playing is particularly inspired. At the 6:00 mark, Billy initiates a snappy jazz beat that drives the ensemble through an extended Coltranesque jam, with Weir slashing in some interesting fills before the verse. The post verse space segment is rather dark and atonal, with some eerie rumblings from Phil before the two and a half minute drum break. Post drums, Phil picks up where he had left off. Things remain spacey and quiet untill 7:15 when Jerry initiates another movement and things get real jazzy again. This one moves quickly for a bit, Jerry blazing before things slow down into a gorgeous UJB type theme jam before the second verse conclusion to one of the jazziest performances of Dark Star on the tour.
The following peformance of Sugar Magnolia, used on the Europe '72 is the Pièce de résistance. Sing Me Back Home, a lovely Uncle John's Band, and a start up GDTRFB round out an incedible set.
Both of these Parisian treasures deserve to be boxed and released in their entirety. (98 pts)
Subject: Charlie Miller
Subject: Good Luvin - Call Me Crazy
Subject: bonus disc
Subject: outstanding - and available
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" May 4, 1972 at L Olympia, Paris, France
Thrity seven years ago today in "GRATEFUL DEAD History":
~~~~~~~~~~~! PIGPEN & KEITH in Paris !~~~~~~~~~~~
It's a Pigpen and Keith show in Europe!
There aren't enough shows with Pigpen and Keith.
These two incredible performers add so much fun, syncopation and rhythmical dimension to the GRATEFUL DEAD you have to get up and dance.
Pigpen and Keith made a special "Magic" only seen on earth for a brief moment in time, but it was captured on tape and is now available on the Internet Archive for all of us to hear, hopefully forever. It sounds too good to be true, but it's not.
I "Highly Recommend" adding this show to your 1972 GRATEFUL DEAD collection. Five stars for the mix, recording, performance & transfer.
Pigpen lays down his organ chops and adds that special "West Coast" sound.
A real treat for us Pigpen fans. A great Pigpen show, and the boys aint' bad either.
I was always a BIG fan of Pigpen's singing & playing.
Relaxed, calm, and assertive the GRATEFUL DEAD perform their show like seasoned professionals to a Parisian audience in spring.
Ah, the smell of Paris in the spring...inhale, cough, choke, cough, hack. Good stuff man...
Not a New York City crowd, but the boys manange to generate some excitement and deliver an incredibly memorable show.
I'd say if a "live show" could be a MASTERPIECE, this one would be it, up until the frogs turned off the electricty during "Next Time You See Me." What the hell was that shit? Excuse my French...
And then there is the French "Dark Star"....this is where you will find what you are looking for.
Gone are the familiar riffs and licks from the 1969 Dark Star...and to replace those street signs in the music are a whole new set of sounds that do the same thing only differently.
Hardly any crowd noise, just a clean sound off the board, mixed to perfection.
One of the best performances of "Sing Me Back Home" I've ever heard. It's very beautiful and angelic.
Get this show while you can, get it while it's free, get it now or you will be sorry.
It's a Charlie Miller transfer. I recommed you click on Charlie's name and collect all his GRATEFUL DEAD shows.
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Eat, Drink, be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks to IA, the GRATEFUL DEAD and Charlie Miller.
I will always scream MORE!
Can you blame me when the music is this good?
Thanks for the LOVE from Paris, France
Remember that the 2nd Dark Star has that sweet 'out of body' jam I love so much ... 1st set is all the stuff the way I expect them to sound... Recording and playmanship like a Dick's pick...
Don't ever forget 2nd set ... Pigpen kicks me in the balls... listen to him when I need to get my lazy ass moving....or when I think all the women of the world look at me like I am just a walking piece-o'-crap
SingMeBackHome...use this version when I get around to learning how to pick the song...
Subject: this band man!
Subject: Spectacularius Superbo
Excellent recording, spirited playing, Pigpen!
An absolute masterpiece.
Subject: Imporant notice re Dark Star
As an initial matter, labelling this as "DS->Drums->DS" would ordinarily be extremely lame except that this drum solo is one of Billy's best. It's brilliance, however, is difficult to appreciate outside of its proper context which is the entire 40 minute long beautifully shiny beast. That is because Billy is hot from beginning to end. Just listen to his drumming during the last verse!
Eventually I'll get around to annotating the Dark Star minute by minute because there at least six distinct (and instantly recognizable) movements. The band start out very tight and in a sublime mood then veer into a dreamlike space of impossible depth. Billy's drum solo occurs smack in the middle of this dream but it seems as if rather than leaving the stage for a smoke the rest of the band has simply dissolved or liquified into nothing before our ears.
When they finally awake, they suddenly snap together and play as tightly or tighter than they ever have before or since, as if awakening they simultaneously understand what they had been aiming for all along.
What I've always found most awesome is that they tease the energy-sucking "downward jam" in this portion for only a few bars. Jerry is plainly uninterested in building a cheesy hut of mundane, major chords on top of the pensive mountain of minor grooves and accidentals the band has accumulated to this point.
And so he lifts the band higher.
Subject: Sugar Magnolia